WITH A LEADER
OF THE IRAQI BA'ATH PARTY
AND OF THE IRAQI RESISTANCE
In an exceptional scoop for the Arab media, the Newspaper AL MAJD got the honor to undertake a field interview from the heart of Baghdad, with one of the principal leaders of the Ba’ath Party and the heroes of Iraqi Resistance.
The Ba’ath Party is in a very good health and leads the most honorable and most dignified battle of the Arab Nation
under the supervision of Comrade Izzat al Duri, elected president of the Party after its late secret Congress in Lebanon.
The Ba’athist position is clear : No negotiations with the US under the Occupation, the only dialogue between them and us are the dialogue of arms and resistance.
There is a large national, patriotic, and Progressive Front, which is participating with the Ba’ath in the Resistance Battle, which provide them with the necessary means.
The so-called Sunni Triangle is a term invented by the enemy to sow division in amongst Iraqi people; Resistance is in every province of Iraq.
it is no secret – but it’s cancelled in Western media – that
the role of leadership is played by the fighters of the Arab
Ba’ath Socialist Party (Iraqi branch) in organizing the
heroic Iraqi Resistance. For this very reason, the
following interview with the member of the Rashid party branch
in Baghdad bears an exceptional importance. This comrade
preferred not to reveal his identity for understandable
security reason, and agreed to speak to AL MAJD for the
outstanding role and clear support the Newspaper played in
supporting the Ba’ath and Iraqi Resistance in its historic
battle with the aggressive Occupation and its puppets tools.
here is the full text of this most important interview :
you give us an idea about the actual situation of the Party in
of all we have to confess that the Battle was cruel due to its
impact and its results, not only on Ba’athists but also on
Iraqis and all Arabs, given the enemy materialistic and
military possibilities. I don’t say that this was a surprise
to us; in fact we had many plans for our action during and
after the aggression. One most important plan was the popular
Resistance, which has proved to be successful and able to
invest the battlefield and has produced the fastest Resistance
I am not going to divulge a secret when saying that we
proceeded to reformulate the organizational corp of our party
from anew in every Iraqi town, and here, allow me to stress,
in all Iraqi town, thus allowing the Party to play its
vanguard and leadership role in the heroic Iraqi Resistance
and do whatever possible to defeat the enemy and his stooges
enemies know very well that many areas in Baghdad and other
cities in Iraq are now under the total control of the Ba’ath
and Iraqi Resistance Combatants. What happened in the Mujahida City of Sammara is a striking proof to
what I am telling you.
we lost lots of members who joined the Party, when it was in
the Government, and this occurred in two ways: First we asked
some of our known comrades to disappear from the front lines
to safeguard their lives, and second, some new comers with
little experience in the Party, joined other political
movements in the hope of some kind of benefits and protection
here let me assure our brothers in the Arab Nation that our
Party is in good health and today with its members, it leads
one of the most dignified and most honorable battles of the
Nation in its contemporary history.
How did you cope with the "De-Ba’athification bill'
imposed by the Occupation and its stooges?
say and History will be a witness on my words, that the Iraqi
Society is, now uprooting those who adopted the
“DeBa’athification bill” immediately after the
occupation, and the Ba’ath stayed strong, immune and hard to
crack to all enemy's attempts.
body should know that the Ba’ath is not a contingency in
Iraq, it is not a weed, its a party which has deep roots in
Iraq; we are very proud to assert that the Ba’ath is the
clearest and most evident political organization which unified
Iraqis in all their differences. The party was able through its thought, principles, positions
and politics to put the interest of the Nation and the Country
as the top priority. That is why the enemy and his stooges are
trying the uppermost to ignite division in Iraq.
who conceived and adopted the "De-Ba’athification
Bill" are the ones who today ask to withdraw it and call
to contain Ba’athists into the new political era under the
hospices of the occupier and its tools. We would like here to
confirm that the Ba’athists and with them the heroic
Resistance themselves will uproot the Occupation and its
stooges, and this is the resolution, and only resolution with
the clear help of our people and our Nation.
Some media have talked about negotiations between the Ba’ath
and the US Administration concerning the future of Iraq.
What do you say about that?
ever the media say about this doesn't concern us at all. I do
think these are US wishful thinking used for election purposes.
only dialogue, which exists today between the Occupation and
us, is the dialogue of arms and resistance. Any negotiations
with the US administration will not be possible under the
is clear for us. These are evident and precise directives
we got from the Comrade Party Secretary General Saddam Hussein
and members of the Party leadership before their imprisonment.
So far there is nothing on the ground, which pushes us to
change this strategy.
I would like to warn our Arab brethren and their political
parties and the media to ignore these CIA invented and wishful
rumors concerning the so-called negotiations
which being used by the US Administration to deform the
Ba’ath position and to confuse its image in front of the
Today many of the Iraq Ba’ath leadership members
including the Party secretary General Saddam Hussein,
are in the custody of the Occupation.
How much this affected the structure of the Party and its course?
happened to the Comrade leader and other Comrades in
the leadership was not of a surprise for us. That is why we
planned for every possibility: imprisonment or martyrdom.
Based on these premises, the different field leadership in all
the provinces of Iraq has played their role in the Battle, and
today they act, every one, according to the directives taken
from the very start.
Party organized in many towns of Iraq extraordinary sessions
where elected leaderships are responsible for daily actions.
Defining the Party politics and strategy, falls within the
competence of the Party leadership, which is headed and
supervised by Comrade Izzat al Duri.
I would like to stress here that not a single one of us was
duped concerning the nature of the Battle, its results or its
agenda. Today and after a year and a half of the occupation,
the world all over knows that the Evil US Administration and
its allies are the ones who were taken for a ride concerning
their appreciation of the long-term battle results.
Some reproach the Iraqi Resistance her lacking of a political agenda,
which determines its tactical and strategic objectives.
What are your feelings about that?
the honest people in the whole wide world know that the Iraqi
Resistance has been misunderstood, even by those who are very
close. Unfortunately the good intentioned people started to
parrot the enemy camp propaganda, which tries to represent the
Resistance as a bunch of incoherent gangs or a group of angry
answer this question, we would like to refer those who repeat
this kind of allegations, to the frequently published statements
of the Arab Ba’ath Socialist Party, which assess the
political changes in and outside Iraq. The Ba’ath and
the Resistance Policies and Strategies Programme published in
September 2003 could be a good tool to answer these questions
which are not innocent at all, and which aim to hurt the
Ba’ath and the Resistance, thus giving the Occupation and
its stooges false justifications.
Ba’ath and the Resistance have a clear tactical and
strategic vision on how to combat, or how to expel the
Occupation from the land of Iraq, God willing! This vision
gushes forth from the Ba’ath vision and its view for the
political life and the national pluralism in liberated Iraq.
A year and half after the birth of the Iraqi Resistance,
some componentsof its identity remain still ambiguous for observers outside Iraq.
Could you give us an idea about the components of the Iraqi Resistance?
not out of bravado or out of pretension to say that the
Iraqi Resistance is the legitimate daughter of the Arab
Ba’ath Socialist Party, and the principal element of this
heroic Resistance is composed of Ba’ath militants and Iraqi
Army elements, Republican Guards, Security services, Saddam's
Fidayyins and Alquds army. All these components as
everyone knows refer to one political leadership, i.e. that of
the Arab Ba’ath Socialist Party. This is what our people
knows, and this what the enemy of our people knows too. And
because we don't want to occupy the whole scene, let's say
there are other currents and organizations, which entered the
Resistance battlefield through the gateway of the Ba’ath.
Yes there are national, Islamic and progressive forces, which
fight with us in the great Liberation Battle. For these
groups, we provide arms and training, funding, protection and
data. We acted and we still do and from the very first day of
the aggression to widen the circle of the popular and frontal
participation in the Resistance field. A large national and
unified Front exists fighting a sacred Battle for the
freedom and the independence of Iraq.
Why don't you declare responsibilities
for the military operations against occupying forces?
realized from the very beginning that this kind of political
information could perturb the Resistance and facilitate the
enemy effort to penetrate it. Thus our clear decision was not
to waste time in this media game. Our objective is to get the
enemy to endure the most losses possible and to hurt him in
the objective to free the Land from the filth of Occupation. A
year and a half later, it shows for the others and us that our
position was correct. This has added more confusion into the
ranks of the enemy, and deprived him from getting the data in
spite all the powerful intelligence in his possession.
here we would like to warn our extended family in the Arab
world, no to give any credits to the lies and propaganda the
enemy uses specially these terms and appellations which are
mere creations of his sick imagination and ill mentality he is
is an opportunity for us to say in a loud voice that the
heroic Resistance, which covers all the land of Iraq, is an
Iraqi resistance in the patriotic, national and human sense.
It has no other outside identities. Trying to refer the
Resistance to one side or the other is a plan to hurt Iraq,
its people, and its crystal clear militant history.
How do you consider your relationship with the Mahdi army?
Do you have any kind of cooperation with them?
do make a difference between those who combat the Occupier and
those who cooperate with him. Every one knows that a large
number of the Mahdi Army fight the Occupation for patriotic
safeguard the kind of relationship we have with all the
elements of the National and Islamic movement in Iraq to
prevent the enemy from getting any intelligence about our wide
the Resistance was linked to the "Sunni triangle"?
"Sunni triangle" is a term invented by the enemy
and its stooges to plant a wedge between the children of a
unified people. The towns such as Fallujah, Ramadi,
Sammara and others came to the limelight because the Media had
access to what was happening inside them. In fact the
Resistance is everywhere in Iraq from Zakho in the extreme
north to Fao in the extreme south, from west to east.
Resistance is in Basrah, Nasiriyah, Amara, Diwanya, Hilla,
Najaf, Baaquba, Mosul, Kirkuk, Tikrit, Karbala, Samawah,
Arbil, Sulaymaniah, exactly as it is in Baghdad and al Anbar.
The Party has taken a negative attitude towards Shia organizations
how can you justify such positions?
attitude of the Party concerning these organizations is not
linked because they are Shia, but because they put
sectarianism before the Land. Many times they have
facilitated a way out for the enemy each time he was trapped
by the Resistance.
of these organizations and not all of them have given cover
for the enemy criminal actions against our people. The
Ba’ath will never hesitate to reveal those who cooperated
with the enemy; whatever is their position or their status.
have confirmed information that from a patriotic point of view,
these obscure organizations, are trying to execute agendas
imposed by external parties aiming at dividing Iraq and
ignite a civil strife amongst its children.
position was clear and radical towards those, who we think
that they still have time to come back to the fold of the
Country and the Land.
(* Special interview in Arabic published in Al Majd Jordanian Newspaper no 456 -11/10/2004, translated by Al- Moharer staff)
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